Spiritist Review — 1858 · Allan Kardec

Chapter 21 of 107

Mademoiselle Clary D… evocation.

Note: Mademoiselle Clary D…, an interesting young girl, who died in 1850, at 13 years of age, has since then remained as the genius of the family, where she is frequently evoked and to which she has given a great number of communications of the highest interest. The conversation that we shall relate below took place among us on January 12, 1857, through the intermediary of her brother, a medium.

Do you have a precise remembrance of your corporeal existence?

Answer. – The Spirit sees the present, the past, and a little of the future, according to its perfection and its proximity to God.

Is this condition of perfection relative only to the future, or does it refer equally to the present and the past?

Answer. – The Spirit sees the future more clearly as it draws near to God. After death the soul sees and embraces at a glance all its past migrations, but cannot see what God prepares for it; for that, it is necessary that it be entirely in God, for many existences.

Do you know at what epoch you will reincarnate?

Answer. – In 10 or 100 years.

Will it be on Earth or in another world?

Answer. – In another.

In relation to Earth, will the world to which you will go have better, equal, or inferior conditions?

Answer. – Much better than those of Earth; there one is happy.

Since you are here among us, you occupy a determined place; which is it?

Answer. – I am with an ethereal appearance; I can say that my Spirit, properly speaking, extends much farther; I see many things and I transport myself very far from here with the rapidity of thought; my appearance is to the right of my brother and guides his arm.

Does the ethereal body with which you are clothed allow you to experience physical sensations, such as heat and cold, for example?

Answer. – When I remember my body very much, I feel a kind of impression, as when one takes off a cloak and remains with the sensation of still wearing it for some time.

You have just said that you can transport yourself with the rapidity of thought; is not thought the soul itself that detaches from its envelope? Answer. – Yes.

When your thought transports itself to some place, how does the separation of your soul take place?

Answer. – The appearance vanishes; the thought goes on alone.

It is, then, a faculty that detaches itself; where does the remaining being stay?

Answer. – The form is not the being.

But, how does this thought act? Does it not always act through the intermediary of matter?

Answer. – No.

When your faculty of thinking detaches itself, do you not, then, act through the intermediary of matter?

Answer. – The shadow dissipates; it reproduces itself where the thought guides it.

Since you were only 13 years old when you died, how is it explained that you can give us, to questions so abstract, answers that are beyond the reach of a child of your age? Answer. – My soul is so ancient!

Can you cite for us, among your previous existences, one of those that most elevated your knowledge?

Answer. – I was in the body of a man, whom I made virtuous; after his death I was in the body of a girl whose countenance portrayed the very soul; God rewards me.

Could it be granted to us to see you here, just as you are at present?

Answer. – To you it could.

How could we do so? Does it depend on us, on you, or on more intimate persons?

Answer. – On you.

What conditions would we have to satisfy for that?

Answer. – Withdraw for some time, with faith and fervor; be less numerous, isolate yourselves a little, and provide a medium of the kind of Home. [1] This section title, previously named “Particular evocations,” was renamed by Allan Kardec “Conversations beyond the tomb” and later and definitively received the title of “Familiar conversations beyond the tomb.”